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Hello!
I had successfully installed PI AF Client 2.x, PI AF Server 2.x and PI Analysis Framework Client. I can access PI System Explorer. I am just wondering where/how can I access the AF Explorer?
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.
Respectfully,
jen
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By the way I want to create Model Analyses and Cases. Does these tasks requires me to have PI Sigmafine?
Thanks a lot!
jen
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Hi Jen, The AF Explorer is installed when you installed AF Client 2.x - if you have no shortcut the executable should be in your "PIPC" folder on your client. As for models and cases, no you do not need sigmafine. You will only need sigmafine if you wish to you the sigmafine Analyses (Mass Balance, Composition Tracking etc). You are free to build you own Analyses plug ins, well providing you are licenced for AF-SDK. If you are using AF Server 2.x I would get used to the slight changes in PI System Explorer and not use AF Explorer, System Explorer is the future. If you want some examples of AF then just let me know and I will get some Tips & Tricks examples up on here. Rhys. Principal Consultant
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Hello Rhys,
Thank you very much for answering all my questions.
Yes, I do love to have samples of AF.
It will be much appreciated!
-jen
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I have one more question.
What kind of Plug-ins does analyses and cases creation require/ does it requires Plug-ins?
I don't have plug-ins folder at \PIPC\PIAF, can I still create Analyses and cases at PI System Explorer?
Thank you!
Sincerely,
jen
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Hi Jen, Two ways to check, on the AF Server browse to your "\PIPC\PIAF\PlugIns\" folder and have a look what assemblies are located in there, these provide your AF Analyses if they are created as Analysis PlugIns (they could also be data reference plugins). Or create a new database, create a new model (you will need an element template for the model, you can create a default one) and then create a new model analysis. On the Analysis Rule dropdown will be all the available Analyses for that AF Server. If you are feeling adventureous, you can always write your own Analysis plugins, it is not as hard as it looks :-) Principal Consultant
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Hello Rhys,
I have created a new database, new model with a default element template but I still can’t create a model analysis. I can't figure out how can I do this with the PI System Explorer. The references that I have which tackles creating Analysis and Cases uses AFExplorer. From what I understand from these references is that AFExplorer already has a model template that has the properties needed for analyses or perhaps the tutorial had skipped the part wherein they have created the model template. Can you please provide me the details (attribute/properties) of the Model Template that has the properties needed for analyses?
Thank you very much!
Regards,
Jen
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Hmm..
Well I guess my problem is this..
I've checked the system properties and I've found out that all my Plug-ins (analysis rule plug-ins, data reference plug-ins, delivery channel plug-ins and time rule plug-ins) are not loaded. Does anyone knows how can I load this plug-ins?
Thank you very much
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Hello to all of you,
Jen,
As far as I know from SF 1.3 in order to have a new model populate you have to add elements to your model.
first of all you need to have on functional DB
After that you creat a model (you 'll choose a model template)
you add different type of elements for your model.
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Hi Jen, Sorry for delay in getting back to you. AF v2.0 handles plugins slightly differently to AF v1.3, AF v2.0 stores plugins in the SQL Database associated with your AF server (table is dbo.PlugIn). Plugins are not loaded by Server explorer until they are required so will show "Not Loaded" - add an attribute to an element, set the attribute type to "PI Point" data reference and set the tag to sinusoid. Go to your system properties now and you will see the PI Point Data Reference is now loaded. The AF client will make a copy of the required plugin (analysis, data reference, time reference) on the client machine (in the allusers directory \ApplicationData\OSIsoft\AF\). So when you use a plugin it gets loaded. When you create a plugin you need to register it on the AF server using "RegPlugIn.exe", which will store it in SQL and make it available to clients. By default on AF v2.0 you should have the imbalance analysis rule, 4 data references and 1 time reference. Hope this helps. Principal Consultant
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Hello Rhys,
Thanks for that info.
I was able to do what you had advised, the plug-ins in my data reference where now loaded.
But still I can't figure out how can I activate/use my imbalance plug-ins. (sorry I don't have a formal training yet but I will surely have one)
I don't know how can I access (or where can I find) the "Model Analysis Properties" textbox where in I can set the analysis rule to be "imbalance".
[My case: database already created, new model chosen from a model template(type:model other) was created, elements under this model is also created]
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Jen, Unfortunately OSI rushed the development of AF v2.0 and did not include the ability to create an Analysis through System Explorer!!! I was shocked when I found, to me a big step backwards from OSI with AF. There are reported data collection improvements in AF v2.0 but without the ability to create an Analysis then AF v2 is a glorified Module Database. The Analysis creation is coming in the next release of AF but when this will be...? What you can do is install the compatability layer for AF so 1.3 clients can connect and create Analyses. OR get your development hat on and create your Analysis using the AFSDK. If you like I can guide you along your way for using AFSDK (if I get some time!) :-) Apparently the next version of AF will merge AF, ACE, Analyses, Event Frames (Batch) in one product so in the meantime AF 2.0 is just a stepping stone. The functionality is there just not accesible through SystemExplorer. Principal Consultant
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Hello Rhys,
Thank you very much for entertaining my queries!I am learning a lot from you and from this site!
Anyways, the AF demo that our organization got from OSI is AF client 2.x and AF server 2.x, is it possible to downgrade our PI AF to 1.3? And regarding with the creation of Analysis using the AFSDK, what are the requirements/pre-requisite of this? Can you please guide me in creating Analysis via AFSDK if you have your free time?
Many many thanks!
Best Regards,
Jen
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